I just read this Op-Ed by our old pal Scott Gottlieb about AI coming in to take on doctors roles sooner than later. Convenient we have a mass exodus and shortage of doctors to expedite this trend. The same people that always tell you not to look up your symptoms and self diagnose are looking to AI to take your symptoms and diagnose. And even natural paths that take cash seem to be over burdened. Mine is 5-6 weeks out which may not seem like a lot but just a year ago I could get right in. I wonder if the AI will hold your diagnosis hostage if you aren’t vaccinated.
I was booted from my primary because I don't wear masks. I tried to be courteous and sit/stand away from others (I wasn't sick or showing signs other than strep throat, which I have quite often). I just can't stand anything over my face.
It wasn't my NP who pushed the issue, as she seemed to care less. It was the "office manager" and a 20 something gal who draws blood.
I've been trying for 2 years to find most ANYONE who will take new patients...so far no luck.
BTW, this is a satellite office of UVA in VA. This ban I suspect is system wide! They own most of the hospitals and clinics in middle VA. 😒
I recently informed my doctor I was l leaving her due to their still requiring masks. She specifically demanded I mask up in the exam room and also tried to push the vaccine on me.
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if Covid was generated in part to be the blame of the collapse of the healthcare system. Although pre Covid we could already see the beginnings of this.
Yep. Same here. I was with same practice for 20 years. My fave doc in the small group left in the middle of covid. The remaining docs merged the practice with a bigger group. Insisted on masks and pushed the vax. I left. Won’t return. But I’ve not got anyone else to go to. I don’t trust any of them around me frankly . They are all bought and paid for.
Yes it is happening in the UK. My daughter has been waiting for an appointment for her daughter and the wait time for the GP is 16 weeks. We live in a reasonably rural area. As neither my daughter nor my granddaughter are vaccinated it could be that the 'anti-vaxers' go to the end of the queue but they are not saying that. What is strange is my daughter had an appointment herself booked with the GP and she said she would like to give her appointment to her daughter but the receptionist said - we can't do that - astonishing!
The practice of medicine as we knew it in the pre 2000's is over. Corporate takeover of independent practices is the main culprit, and even some long - time good doctors become corrupted. The owner (usually your consolidated regional hospital) of a doctors' "shop" (read profit center) must be fed by referrals for expensive tests, consultations, hospitalizations, elective procedures, and in pediatrics, the ethical conflict with extra pay for extra jabs is obvious and a disgrace.
Long waits for appointments will be shortened by the AI doctors who work 24/7, only requiring an IT specialist for maintenance and updating CME. Patients will eventually accept this because the real docs are gone, and the robots will learn to be empathetic and personalize your experience based on machine learning of you peculiar "needs". I hear this is soon to be played out in medical oncology, neurology, where new patient waits are already unacceptable.
The docs who will still be having fun are the surgeons and those doing invasive procedures that robots just can't manage. Also those docs who completely opt out, take lesser income, more financial risk, and enjoy listening to, talking to, and caring for their patients.
As I told my fledgling MD daughter "You greatest reward will be in the unique privilege of taking care of your patient's most private and urgent medical needs. The money will follow and be more than sufficient."
Who doesn’t think that diminishing health care wasn’t the goal all along? And it’s not just health care that has been affected. I just read that the airlines are short pilots which will grow to 30,000 in 10 years and by golly congress just voted against letting unjabbed pilots return to work now that we know that the jabs don’t protect us. Just fly less and pay more. Plus the military can’t meet its quota for new recruits. How many other industries are having the same problem?
Ahh I see. I read Alice's comment on AI. Yeah it’s been done deliberately.
I can not speak to why the doctors are quitting. I can speak to the FACT that healthcare providers exposed themselves during the pandemic and lost the trust of their patients. Not all doctors, not all patients, but many. Myself included. Once a year I see a nurse practitioner, because I do not trust the doctors. Our local hospital still has a mask and vaccine mandate, which further alienates patients and doctors. Imagine, going through all the medical school, taking on all that debt and watching the entire industry collapse because big pharma is pulling the strings and their greed has no limits. I am guessing Jennifer, that in your case, I am preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, I see no solution, these companies have become too big and too powerful.
Deep Fake Doctors in our Future? https://youtu.be/MWl_ZYjyVms Seems the COVID lockdowns collapsed many systems, and this is a way to herald in the Fourth Industrial Reich...uh... Revolution. In a benevolent world, these advances in AI etc could be wonderful - but, in the present context, I seem them as potentially diabolical.
Long story but we used home health services for my 84 YO mom when she was discharged from rehab (insurance, she was NOT ready to go home but insisted she would be 'fine' once she got home as she HATED the NH, and they did suck), following a 2.5 week hospitalization. Fell on the way in the door, and could not be left alone. Combo of weakness from sitting at home during covid, not exercising, arthritis, and generally self-defeating attitude/personality. Initially could not even get up from a chair without help. Insisted she just 'needed more time' to get back to independent living. This went on for 6 months. Home health was a nightmare. She had someone scheduled to be with her from 9 AM to 10 PM and I stayed with her every night, sleeping on an air mattress as we didn't want to pay someone to sit there while she slept. I could not plan anything, as at least 2-3 shifts a week were no shows or cancelled at the last minute. Early on had someone steal the cash in her wallet, we put all valuables in a safe deposit box and I kept her wallet and checkbook with me. Some were very good, some were terrible. Thought about trying a different agency, but talked with several friends who were in a similar boat and concluded that this was par for the course. After months of PT and OT she did make progress but she lived a half hour from me and ended up moving her to an assisted living place 5 min from me last month. Mixed bag there too. Lots of turnover. But she has a call button on her wrist and they do have staffing 24/7. It's expensive, but cheaper than what we were paying home health and she is actually trying to do more for herself. Think having someone with her all the time made it easy for her not to try. Her place has a 5 minute response time goal, and she says they usually stay in that window although she has said some of them seem to be 'in a big hurry' and seem to resent being asked to do multiple things with one visit.
Doctor wise, her PCP is still practicing, is very good, and told her not to get any more C shots after the first 2 (no she didn't listen to me and got them anyway) resulted in a lot of skin issues, and it took 4 months to get her into a dermatologist. Sees a cardiologist every 6 months as she has afib and a pacemaker but we just make the next appointment while we are there for the current one.
I need to change PCPs as my current one pushed the shot, but went ahead and scheduled my next physical for this year while I was at the office last year, thinking I would investigate and find a new one later. My friend highly recommended hers, but he suddenly retired. Hubby's non shot pushing PCP came in to see him using a walker, so figure he is likely retiring soon, so not bothering to switch to him. Another reco not taking new patients. Thankful I have no health issues. Had a UTI last year and just went to the nurse practitioner at CVS and got in there same day. Plan to quiz mom's cardiologist at her next appt. about patient volume. Last time we were there in March everyone in the waiting room was elderly.
I just read this Op-Ed by our old pal Scott Gottlieb about AI coming in to take on doctors roles sooner than later. Convenient we have a mass exodus and shortage of doctors to expedite this trend. The same people that always tell you not to look up your symptoms and self diagnose are looking to AI to take your symptoms and diagnose. And even natural paths that take cash seem to be over burdened. Mine is 5-6 weeks out which may not seem like a lot but just a year ago I could get right in. I wonder if the AI will hold your diagnosis hostage if you aren’t vaccinated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/op-ed-gottlieb-says-ai-may-take-on-doctors-roles-sooner-rather-than-later/ar-AA1eAtFp
Same! https://youtu.be/MWl_ZYjyVms
I was booted from my primary because I don't wear masks. I tried to be courteous and sit/stand away from others (I wasn't sick or showing signs other than strep throat, which I have quite often). I just can't stand anything over my face.
It wasn't my NP who pushed the issue, as she seemed to care less. It was the "office manager" and a 20 something gal who draws blood.
I've been trying for 2 years to find most ANYONE who will take new patients...so far no luck.
BTW, this is a satellite office of UVA in VA. This ban I suspect is system wide! They own most of the hospitals and clinics in middle VA. 😒
I recently informed my doctor I was l leaving her due to their still requiring masks. She specifically demanded I mask up in the exam room and also tried to push the vaccine on me.
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if Covid was generated in part to be the blame of the collapse of the healthcare system. Although pre Covid we could already see the beginnings of this.
Yep. Same here. I was with same practice for 20 years. My fave doc in the small group left in the middle of covid. The remaining docs merged the practice with a bigger group. Insisted on masks and pushed the vax. I left. Won’t return. But I’ve not got anyone else to go to. I don’t trust any of them around me frankly . They are all bought and paid for.
So sad and stupid. I was NEVER sick...since I wasn't vaxxed...if it was indeed so horrid, I was the one who was at risk...NOT THEM.
Hard to understand. What makes it worse, no one wants to advocate for us. No lawyers jumping to sue, like the water at the Marine base. 😡
Yes it is happening in the UK. My daughter has been waiting for an appointment for her daughter and the wait time for the GP is 16 weeks. We live in a reasonably rural area. As neither my daughter nor my granddaughter are vaccinated it could be that the 'anti-vaxers' go to the end of the queue but they are not saying that. What is strange is my daughter had an appointment herself booked with the GP and she said she would like to give her appointment to her daughter but the receptionist said - we can't do that - astonishing!
The doctors trusted the science, without verification.
The practice of medicine as we knew it in the pre 2000's is over. Corporate takeover of independent practices is the main culprit, and even some long - time good doctors become corrupted. The owner (usually your consolidated regional hospital) of a doctors' "shop" (read profit center) must be fed by referrals for expensive tests, consultations, hospitalizations, elective procedures, and in pediatrics, the ethical conflict with extra pay for extra jabs is obvious and a disgrace.
Long waits for appointments will be shortened by the AI doctors who work 24/7, only requiring an IT specialist for maintenance and updating CME. Patients will eventually accept this because the real docs are gone, and the robots will learn to be empathetic and personalize your experience based on machine learning of you peculiar "needs". I hear this is soon to be played out in medical oncology, neurology, where new patient waits are already unacceptable.
The docs who will still be having fun are the surgeons and those doing invasive procedures that robots just can't manage. Also those docs who completely opt out, take lesser income, more financial risk, and enjoy listening to, talking to, and caring for their patients.
As I told my fledgling MD daughter "You greatest reward will be in the unique privilege of taking care of your patient's most private and urgent medical needs. The money will follow and be more than sufficient."
You are spot on with this assessment. 100%.
And the more government gets involved, the worse it will get.
Who doesn’t think that diminishing health care wasn’t the goal all along? And it’s not just health care that has been affected. I just read that the airlines are short pilots which will grow to 30,000 in 10 years and by golly congress just voted against letting unjabbed pilots return to work now that we know that the jabs don’t protect us. Just fly less and pay more. Plus the military can’t meet its quota for new recruits. How many other industries are having the same problem?
Ahh I see. I read Alice's comment on AI. Yeah it’s been done deliberately.
Patients are always the ones who suffer.
I can not speak to why the doctors are quitting. I can speak to the FACT that healthcare providers exposed themselves during the pandemic and lost the trust of their patients. Not all doctors, not all patients, but many. Myself included. Once a year I see a nurse practitioner, because I do not trust the doctors. Our local hospital still has a mask and vaccine mandate, which further alienates patients and doctors. Imagine, going through all the medical school, taking on all that debt and watching the entire industry collapse because big pharma is pulling the strings and their greed has no limits. I am guessing Jennifer, that in your case, I am preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, I see no solution, these companies have become too big and too powerful.
Deep Fake Doctors in our Future? https://youtu.be/MWl_ZYjyVms Seems the COVID lockdowns collapsed many systems, and this is a way to herald in the Fourth Industrial Reich...uh... Revolution. In a benevolent world, these advances in AI etc could be wonderful - but, in the present context, I seem them as potentially diabolical.
As winter approaches, I’m making twice daily anti-virus nasal cleanses and gargling part of my routine.
"THANK YOU! I will never again see a doctor or enter a hospital. PEACE BE WITH YOU!"
Wow! I thought we were only having this problem in Canada!
Long story but we used home health services for my 84 YO mom when she was discharged from rehab (insurance, she was NOT ready to go home but insisted she would be 'fine' once she got home as she HATED the NH, and they did suck), following a 2.5 week hospitalization. Fell on the way in the door, and could not be left alone. Combo of weakness from sitting at home during covid, not exercising, arthritis, and generally self-defeating attitude/personality. Initially could not even get up from a chair without help. Insisted she just 'needed more time' to get back to independent living. This went on for 6 months. Home health was a nightmare. She had someone scheduled to be with her from 9 AM to 10 PM and I stayed with her every night, sleeping on an air mattress as we didn't want to pay someone to sit there while she slept. I could not plan anything, as at least 2-3 shifts a week were no shows or cancelled at the last minute. Early on had someone steal the cash in her wallet, we put all valuables in a safe deposit box and I kept her wallet and checkbook with me. Some were very good, some were terrible. Thought about trying a different agency, but talked with several friends who were in a similar boat and concluded that this was par for the course. After months of PT and OT she did make progress but she lived a half hour from me and ended up moving her to an assisted living place 5 min from me last month. Mixed bag there too. Lots of turnover. But she has a call button on her wrist and they do have staffing 24/7. It's expensive, but cheaper than what we were paying home health and she is actually trying to do more for herself. Think having someone with her all the time made it easy for her not to try. Her place has a 5 minute response time goal, and she says they usually stay in that window although she has said some of them seem to be 'in a big hurry' and seem to resent being asked to do multiple things with one visit.
Doctor wise, her PCP is still practicing, is very good, and told her not to get any more C shots after the first 2 (no she didn't listen to me and got them anyway) resulted in a lot of skin issues, and it took 4 months to get her into a dermatologist. Sees a cardiologist every 6 months as she has afib and a pacemaker but we just make the next appointment while we are there for the current one.
I need to change PCPs as my current one pushed the shot, but went ahead and scheduled my next physical for this year while I was at the office last year, thinking I would investigate and find a new one later. My friend highly recommended hers, but he suddenly retired. Hubby's non shot pushing PCP came in to see him using a walker, so figure he is likely retiring soon, so not bothering to switch to him. Another reco not taking new patients. Thankful I have no health issues. Had a UTI last year and just went to the nurse practitioner at CVS and got in there same day. Plan to quiz mom's cardiologist at her next appt. about patient volume. Last time we were there in March everyone in the waiting room was elderly.