Ahhhh, the brilliant Igor Chudov is back with another fascinating article. He is a great follow on Substack just FYI. In a new study by the New England Journal of Medicine, the researchers focused on the time it takes to eliminate the natural covid infection virus from persons vaccinated versus persons not vaccinated for covid. Here is the journal article.
Too bad researchers are not studying with”gold standard” methodology. It will stay anecdotal likely confabulated with “ long covid” oncology must lead this crusade.
They showed boosted gets BA1/2 antibodies post omicron infection, otherwise awful for other outcomes, so do you have any info on how long that antibody lasts, and/or how it works against BA4/5? Just haven’t seen any hybrid immunity studies against BA4/5 yet…would another booster mess up their BA1/2 antibodies?
2) a study Dr Been showed reinfection is worse each time (no difference between 0 and 2 doses for each severe outcomes), but other studies showing like 70-97% effectiveness against severe illnesses for both vax and natural immunity, so is reinfection suppose to be milder or worse now? =P
3) me and wife got flu shots in 2019 then a few months later she got alopecia and I had swollen hand with blisters (had them in ankles and knees apparently from scabies a year earlier), we recovered but I am worried about immune imprinting from that shot, can we still take supplements and good diet to have a rounded immune system or have we suppressed our old acquired antibodies? I realized I got quite sick with viruses or flu the yr after each of my flu shots that work recommended me to get a few yrs ago, I got about 3 between 2014-2019…
So great questions…..and I actually have an upcoming substack about this paper! Great minds! 😎
So as far as antibodies for BA4/5, I have not seen any data on that yet, I am guessing because it is too new, and the data is still getting gathered. I would hypothesize that given the vaccine and booster prevent you from developing n-antibodies (46% develop when vaxxed versus 92% develop them when unvaxxed), I would hypothesize that the booster could certainly mess with natural immunity that one developed.
2. If you have not been vaccinated, and have the n-antibodies (natural immunity), you will not develop a severe case of covid when you are exposed and your immune system is re-challenged. If you are not vaccinated and have had covid, you have 97% protection from severe or deadly covid re-infection.
3. I have suspected they put “something” in the flu vax 2019-2020. SOOOOOO many people were soooooo sick that winter! Was it early covid appearing? Probably. Was something in the flu vaccine making people more likely to become sick with covid and other viruses? Probably.
Ideally, that years flu shot should not have hung around any longer, as they are not mRNA technology that encode into your DNA. GOod diet, vitamins, sunshine, exercise, all super important in building a good immune system! Like you, the two seasons I got the flu shot I caught every single piece of crud that went around those winter seasons!!
GREAT GREAT questions!!!! I love dialogue with followers!
We live in New Zealand so that's crazy that the flu shots were doing the same thing in US (I assume you are based there??), maybe we imported from the US? My local medical friends did say something was going on with those shots in 2019 too. We're not having any flu shots ever now, haha. Much more keen on natural therapy/prevention these days.
Thanks for the dialogue it's hard to find or have general chat with actual ethical doctors these days =)
Dr. Brown you may not be able to answer and I understand but is oncology seeing excessive numbers of patients with cancer unexpectedly rapidly metastasizing even though they were in Good control. Of course causal relationship would be very hard to prove without long follow up and large numbers with vaxxed and unvexed populations - not going to happen. And then there is always “long Covid“ as the culprit.
Anecdotally…..yes. Pancreatic/colon/stomach are primary ones. Post 25 years remission suddenly having recurrence of stage 4 breast cancer. They are all baffled at what has caused this sudden surge. They are in heavy denial and have not connected the vaccinated to it whatsoever. You and I know the causative agent………
Not to worry Novovax soon to the rescue. Experiments on drugs do not always give safe or marketable results. Bad for the bottom line. A large study needed. Any takers vaccine scientists?
Maybe should all just get a double dose Novovax and see what happens. And go back for 2 more like a week later. Shoot one into each deltoid every single week. I am sure its a totally safe thing to do. The profitability would be fantastic for good ol pharma!
Too bad researchers are not studying with”gold standard” methodology. It will stay anecdotal likely confabulated with “ long covid” oncology must lead this crusade.
Hi Dr Jennifer, I have a couple of questions, 1) for this paper https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.abq1841?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
They showed boosted gets BA1/2 antibodies post omicron infection, otherwise awful for other outcomes, so do you have any info on how long that antibody lasts, and/or how it works against BA4/5? Just haven’t seen any hybrid immunity studies against BA4/5 yet…would another booster mess up their BA1/2 antibodies?
2) a study Dr Been showed reinfection is worse each time (no difference between 0 and 2 doses for each severe outcomes), but other studies showing like 70-97% effectiveness against severe illnesses for both vax and natural immunity, so is reinfection suppose to be milder or worse now? =P
3) me and wife got flu shots in 2019 then a few months later she got alopecia and I had swollen hand with blisters (had them in ankles and knees apparently from scabies a year earlier), we recovered but I am worried about immune imprinting from that shot, can we still take supplements and good diet to have a rounded immune system or have we suppressed our old acquired antibodies? I realized I got quite sick with viruses or flu the yr after each of my flu shots that work recommended me to get a few yrs ago, I got about 3 between 2014-2019…
Thanks!
Hey friend!!!
So great questions…..and I actually have an upcoming substack about this paper! Great minds! 😎
So as far as antibodies for BA4/5, I have not seen any data on that yet, I am guessing because it is too new, and the data is still getting gathered. I would hypothesize that given the vaccine and booster prevent you from developing n-antibodies (46% develop when vaxxed versus 92% develop them when unvaxxed), I would hypothesize that the booster could certainly mess with natural immunity that one developed.
2. If you have not been vaccinated, and have the n-antibodies (natural immunity), you will not develop a severe case of covid when you are exposed and your immune system is re-challenged. If you are not vaccinated and have had covid, you have 97% protection from severe or deadly covid re-infection.
3. I have suspected they put “something” in the flu vax 2019-2020. SOOOOOO many people were soooooo sick that winter! Was it early covid appearing? Probably. Was something in the flu vaccine making people more likely to become sick with covid and other viruses? Probably.
Ideally, that years flu shot should not have hung around any longer, as they are not mRNA technology that encode into your DNA. GOod diet, vitamins, sunshine, exercise, all super important in building a good immune system! Like you, the two seasons I got the flu shot I caught every single piece of crud that went around those winter seasons!!
GREAT GREAT questions!!!! I love dialogue with followers!
Thanks for your reply doctor =)
I saw a couple of videos from Dr Been in the weekend about BA4/5, and some tips on saliva integrity against the virus =)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhvbFC-IzdI&t=252s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l5ZpU7YLvU&t=643s
We live in New Zealand so that's crazy that the flu shots were doing the same thing in US (I assume you are based there??), maybe we imported from the US? My local medical friends did say something was going on with those shots in 2019 too. We're not having any flu shots ever now, haha. Much more keen on natural therapy/prevention these days.
Thanks for the dialogue it's hard to find or have general chat with actual ethical doctors these days =)
Dr. Brown you may not be able to answer and I understand but is oncology seeing excessive numbers of patients with cancer unexpectedly rapidly metastasizing even though they were in Good control. Of course causal relationship would be very hard to prove without long follow up and large numbers with vaxxed and unvexed populations - not going to happen. And then there is always “long Covid“ as the culprit.
Anecdotally…..yes. Pancreatic/colon/stomach are primary ones. Post 25 years remission suddenly having recurrence of stage 4 breast cancer. They are all baffled at what has caused this sudden surge. They are in heavy denial and have not connected the vaccinated to it whatsoever. You and I know the causative agent………
Not to worry Novovax soon to the rescue. Experiments on drugs do not always give safe or marketable results. Bad for the bottom line. A large study needed. Any takers vaccine scientists?
Maybe should all just get a double dose Novovax and see what happens. And go back for 2 more like a week later. Shoot one into each deltoid every single week. I am sure its a totally safe thing to do. The profitability would be fantastic for good ol pharma!