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Rusty Shackelford's avatar

Well, who “owns” OB/GYN in the US? My casaul observation is that a large percentage of the practitioners are own by healthcare systems… they don’t own their practice. They follow CEO orders and are very focused on meeting their employers’ goals that they have set for them. And this is NOT exclusive to OB/GYN.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Absolutely. Pharma owns them, accrediting bodies own them….and it is every specialty. This one just happens to be OBGYN being mad about. Pediatrics, OBGYN, and primary care are the primary vax branches.

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DrGU's avatar

Well said and totally true.

Get a FMD/OB GYN not owned by corporate medicine if you value your health. Consider a concierge doc recommended by someone you trust. Use allopathic and subspecility medical care judiciously.

If you cannot do this, take responsibility for all your health decisions and learn about holistic approaches.

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PDG's avatar

Disgusting. We need a huge turnover. The Medical establishment has done an incredible disservice to themselves through greed and tunnel vision. No independent thinking people have any trust for their doctors. Not long ago, the word of the doctor was Gospel, no more.

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Kate's avatar

Jennifer: thank you for being a healthcare provider who does value human life. You have principles and a SOUL😘.

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SomeDude's avatar

the same link, without the PHP tracking code:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/obgyn/pregnancy/116062

with naked eye analysis, I'd guess you got the link from an email newsletter, sourced from whatever Sailthru is, with a DHE header, and you possibly using a gmail account.

and I can't even access their database, that's just what is visible in plain text in the unedited tracking URL

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Sadly this was from my protonmail account!!! I ditched google 5 years ago! Freaking scary……..

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BetterOffRed's avatar

Protonmail would be a much better independent email to use for your own stuff, Dr FT.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

I use protonmail! That is where the link was sourced! 😳

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SomeDude's avatar

when I click through from email, I get that kind of cruft tacked on to the first redirect too.

the chromium based brave browser, which they claim has as much Google tracking removed as possible from the code, trims those cluttered links for me once they eventually get to the landing page. and has a "copy clean link" option for right click/long press of links.

it's certainly not perfect but I'm not finding any less intrusive browsers that expose their codebase which still can open most current web pages.

also when I'm copy pasting a link to share, I'll trim it manually if I need to. the key is that you remove everything from the question mark to the end. the ? tells the website it's got PHP, and each variable being passed after the first one is preceded by an ampersand, just FYI if you like odd information.

there are a very few links that have useful/critical PHP variables in them that you can't delete and retain full access to the content. an example is this YouTube link to Richard Pryor's Exorcist 2 SNL skit, where the PHP code marks what video it is and the timestamp to start playing it at.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B8dKnFU5LUE&t=186s

YouTube does like to append additional PHP tracking garbage like where you got to the video from, and is one of those sites that needs manual link trimming if you want to be diligent about nerfing DARPA and Skynet's human link click tracking system by a tiny bit.

<takes off and polishes glasses, straightens bowtie, rearranges notes>

mostly I just like warning people about the PHP tracking code, if I'm bothering to communicate with someone they're likely the type to want to reduce their tracked digital footprint as much as they reasonably can.

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Ted's avatar

Very helpful info. Thank you very much.

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James Kringlee's avatar

money grubbers

In the good old days - the Doctor, "First do no harm"

In these evil days - the Patient, "First do not let the doctor harm you"

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Ted's avatar

What's relevant, is not that it's no longer "recommended."

What's relevant is that now, the corporate medicine salespeople will have to actually work at selling it to make their target sales numbers.

It's also relevant that they used threats and coercion if anyone dared to say "my kid's not getting that shot."

I remember how a local pediatrician ejected anyone from their practice that did not comply with her demand to join the mass human trials of the experimental new prophylactic.

That pediatrician was not alone in doing that. It was a filthy form of extortion and a very real threat; "you will get no medical treatment for yourself, and we can get child protective services involved if you don't obey me."

And yes, that CPS involvement actually happened. I suspect that it was more widespread than the handful of verified reports I read, reports from as trustworthy sources as you can get, these days.

The OB/Gyns objecting to this retraction of this part of their profitable revenue steam, are also fighting back against their power to compel people to obey.

Yes, it's become a matter of regular folks realizing the real motivation of these corporate salesmen/extortion artists.

My own doctor's private practice was driven into near bankruptcy by the corporate predators rather too late in life. He offered the experimental gene expression chemical to me once, and never mentioned it again. The corporation that seized his practice, had to be appeased by him trying to sell the toxic prophylactic, but if they fire my doctor for not meeting his sales goals, he can just retire any time.

And the world would then lose yet another great physician who actually has a moral compass.

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Dee Dee's avatar

I wonder how the frontline doctors who saw the results of their orders really feel....no visual remorse.

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Joe's avatar

I think that musing answers it's own question.

sizzle. crackle.

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