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Joseph Kerner's avatar

How many covid-vaccine advocates have "died suddenly?" I lost count, it's a large number. A minority percentage of doctors who were pro-covid-vaccine and who actually received one or more shots, have realized the truth and had the integrity and courage to speak out against these products. Doctors such as Aseem Malhotra, Robert Malone and Paul Offit. The majority of doctors continue to push or tacitly agree to these ineffective and deadly products. They are either (1) too corrupt, (2) too cowardly, or (3) unable to admit they were wrong. I consider this majority of doctors despicable, and complicit in the harm or death of tens of millions of people worldwide.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

I agree. They are either too arrogant to admit it or paid too well to admit it.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

All things serve the narrative. They will argue that it had nothing to do with the vaccine. And yet if this person were unvaccinated and was vaccine hesitant and they died with/of Covid, they would headline it on the news.

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Dave Payette's avatar

Thanks. This is the crux of it all, I think: “Most of us have to accept the word of experts and are quite willing to do so." Most of us do NOT have to accept the word of "experts" and while many are quite content to do so, there are many who are not. Although her arguments were deeply flawed and childish, may the good doctor rest in peace.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

That is my greatest hope…….if you do not feel right about what they recommend to you, be able to have the discussion with the doctor. And the provider needs to start working for the patient again period. If they cannot, it is time to move on.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Even working in healthcare, I have had to standup a few times and go “well I am not sure I want to go down that road could we look at alternatives here”. And yes the covid shot was one of those.

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PDG's avatar

Experts? There are no experts, we have no long-term follow up data from a clinical trial. We are starting to get long-term data from the billions of guinea pigs that took the jab. A true expert would look at that data and never recommend this "vaccine" again. You would be shocked how incompetent many MDs are. I work on the research side and many MDs cannot follow simple protocols, which is a windfall for personal injury lawyers, if you know what I mean. This should be the windfall of all windfalls.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

I agree. We have no long term data, no credible studies, and the “experts” are not experts at all. I can only imagine what you see on your side of the research spectrum with all of this!

Anyone recommending a vaccine at this point should be fired as the provider and patient should go on down the road to find a new one. The attorneys are going to be busy busy busy!

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PDG's avatar

Almost makes me wish I took a different career path! Almost. :)

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Datagal's avatar

I’m going to get a routine physical soon. I am 65, unjabbed and also no flu shots. But I’m in CA and the new law prevents docs from being honest about vaccines. Even if my doc is anti vax, I won’t know. And I won’t know if I interview new docs. I’m also hearing I can’t use out of state telemedicine docs.

So I’m on my own medically. I recently self treated my covid with flccc protocol, using drugs I got in MX. What if I had to go to the hospital? Would they let me in? Would they force jab me?

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Stuffysays's avatar

How sad for her husband. She may have been a self-righteous pompous doctor but her husband called her his beloved.

I doubt that her family will link her death to the vaccines because she clearly had no doubts about them so it's unlikely her family have any.

We all know that people who die suddenly, unexpectedly, in their sleep, with no prior illness, have been killed by the toxic jabs. We are the ones who have been doing the research into everything connected with the jabs (even us unscientific plebs have been ploughing through research papers with dictionary in hand). Everybody else did like this lady and just assumed the jabs were fine because "they" wouldn't be jabbing millions of people if they weren't safe.

So tragic.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Remember how a couple years ago, they just couldn't wait to amplify any 'anti-vaxxer' who died of/with covid?

Wonder why they're so silent now...........

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Crickets chirping isn’t it.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It doesn't serve the narrative. They will also say things like "I tell you how she didn't die, it wasn't from the vaccine. If you believe she might have died of the vaccine you are a conspiracy theorist."

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Dr. Alexander posted her passing and the comments section wasn't very sympathetic.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

As unsympathetic as these comments?

https://twitter.com/KansasGOPSlayer/status/1615527995954831362

The Proud Boy’s co-founder and vaccine-denier died of COVID!? There is a God.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Wow. That is horrible!!!!!

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Yeah pretty close actually.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Isn't it sad that we are so divided that even when we disagree, we can't feel bad or show sympathy for her family.

Unfortunately, it would appear that she had little empathy for what others were feeling or their skepticism.

I wish we could go back to when most would say "this is my opinion based on my training and experience. You disagree, so we will just have to agree to disagree."

Online bullies of all walks of life now feel emboldened to DEMAND that we follow their lead and not trust our own research, instincts or professionals who have gained our trust. 😕

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Go look at the comments at Paul's stack and see mime in particular.

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Mary Mc's avatar

???

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It was never my rationale not to take it due to "I don't know what's in it." I never had to get that far.

First, I already thought I had it in February of 2020. What rational reason does a person need to get vaccinated for a virus they already had?

Second, death rates. The death rate for Covid, even by the CDC early on in the pandemic was at .3%, now it's overall death rate is .09%, why do I need a vaccine for a disease that has a .09% death rate?

Third, it's experimental. Most drugs/vaccines have a trial process that goes on for years. This one was pushed through in less than a year. A simple rational response is, "I will wait years until it is determined to be safe." This is just "delaying" in my case, my determination stopped at the first assertion.

Fourth, it does not do what they say it was going to do, stop infection and transmission.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

But her death would have been so much worse if not For the Harmacide that killed her. Which she went to her grave defending....

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Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Kinda belies the "...Intelligent Decisions..." part of her book's title, huh? And the "Do you know what's in the food your neighborhood is serving?" line and comparing it what's in a vax made me chortle. Almost uncontrollably. 🤣

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PDG's avatar

I can answer that, her family's thoughts on the vaccine have not changed. They have been brain washed beyond any reasonable critical thinking process, because they, like her, are weak. Could not understand vaccine hesitancy because the mass formation was so deep, they stopped thinking altogether. We have all seen this too often. I close with this: karma is a bitch!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Karma is a bitch, but it's not as if this is happening to them, but to us. There is no "them." There are those of us who fell to mass formation, and those of us who didn't it. I think I bear part of the blame in not speaking out more. I chose not to post on facebook because people didn't sign up on Facebook to hear my thoughts on politics, the vaccine, or masks, but I would comment on other's posts about it.

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PDG's avatar

You would have been censored on any media platform. For the most part you would still be censored. Only one side of the story was/is allowed to be told. Why? Because there is so much money out there waiting to be had if you play by their rules. Whose money? Yours! That's right, they printed $5T and distributed to the most wealthy among us. Your tax dollars at work. The establishment MDs could not sing the tune enough, karma is a bitch.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Yep, and we did it to ourselves. That's the sad thing about all this. You think what we did via the censorship will help us in the end? And it didn't start with the pandemic but long before it. We have been a boiling toad in this stew of dual realities for awhile now. For many of us who saw it early and often, we left media platforms long ago.

I was ranting angrily at newspapers back in the nineties! I knew there were lies, bias, and ridiculous "experts" back then.

Heck, every few months there would be a new study about how coffee was good/bad for you. If people couldn't make their mind up about coffee, what else were they confused about.

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

AMEN 🙌🏻

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J. Arnold's avatar

Here's what Miles Mathis has to say about H.H. - http://mileswmathis.com/harriet.pdf

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Jennifer Brown's avatar

Excellent read. I love Mathis…..I need to stick his page in my browser tabs because I miss his updates sometimes. His history of her is fantastic…..

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